this is just opinion, but i think he should be used on flatter muscled cows, not light muslced mind you, as he seems to throw puffy muscles. for me, it's kinda gross. perhaps some midas influence type maines or simmy, as they seem high flanked for some reason on some of them. he seems to fill up the twist area, so again, dont' use him on something that is already full there or you'll get a stiff walker whose wide to a fault. angus, hmm, a little more angular same as above comments. i haven't seen any where someone tried him on a occ legend type cow. man, i think that cross would look like a d-10 cat coming at you. cows should also have some stride in them and be able to walk in their tracks cause if he's used on a short strider, and combined with his muscle and fat, it would be hard pressed to see him look good moving. but who knows, they have a look, and they keep winning. i would like to see some heatwave train wrecks so we can compare the diversity he throws. again, who knows, he's probably bred to better cows in the first place, so maybe the diversity is low. even at the western bonanza, there were quite a few heatwaves, even heifers, and i kinda felt sorry for them the way they moved. their owners were impressed though.