I actually had one out of a Heatwave heifer. She came real easy right around 60-65 pounds and smooth. Looking at the heifer I got maybe would need to breed him to something with absolutely no shoulder as the heifer has a lot of shoulder. She has tons and tons and TONS of hair, moderate muscled but with all the hair you could make her look as big as you wanted. I have some young pictures of the calf I'll post as well. Hope this helps! The first is her at State Fair of Texas in October last year, the next is her in December getting ready to go to Winter Classic show in Stillwater, OK, the last one is one in the dead heat of Texas Summer in July had only been in the barn about a month and kinda shows how much hair she had.