2nd hand report here, there are some good ones. If i may paraphrase "shockingly smooth" I dont know if you saw the bull in person, but his thickness was never in question. It was a matter if they were going to run a "buy ten units get calfjack half-off" sale. As big as the butt was, those shoulders looked like you would be trying to pull a frozen CIDR through a donut hole. As flayed out as he looked, I have heard more trainwrecks out of ALI (3) than Hm (0) from boys who used them equally. (I realize ALI was heifers and HM was cows but you get my point).
Word is if you need a monster bumper, he can do it and doesnt seem to be the vets nightmare he looked like he would be.