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Justin69.o

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I grind my own feed for my 4-h steers. It consists on 70% corn 20% gluten protein 5% oats and 5% pelted mineral. I also feed a lot of hay. My calves all gain 4+ pounds per day and i don't feed very hard either.I wash them once a day and brush often but i still seem to burn the hair off of them. Even though they aren't hair steers anyway, but if i were to get some hair calves would they keep their hair or do i need to change my ration?
 

cattleboy

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yeah i agree. 70% corn is too much. i'm feeding 24% beet pulp, 36% oats, and 50% cracked corn. I mix this with a 23% protein feed and its really working! corn is just a source of energy and if you feed too much, the excess energy turns to fat and not muscle. They will start to grow out not up!
 

Justin69.o

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But isn't beet pulp just i filler? My calves are eating 9 pounds of alfalfa hay too so would that off set the corn some?
 
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corn will burn hair right off of them- especially when it gets warm...

go to the homepage, and check up AAOK's ration... we've switched over, and wouldn't feed anything else... 
 

Justin69.o

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Do u know how to change that so i can use gluten instead of soybean meal? And what about kelp meal.
 

Justin69.o

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i added it up and if it's possible to "replace" beet pulp with grass hay i'm only feeding 51% corn
 

CAB

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Justin I would suggest that you find a nutritionist to sit down & visit with. You have allot of questions that need attention & some philosophy's that need consideration. Do you have either an Ag teacher or local feed mill that you use?
 

tcf

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Utilize resources around you. Nutritionists, consulting company, extension offices. There are lots of people out there that are willing to help if you just ask questions. Asking questions to better yourself is never, ever a bad thing. I work for an unnamed nutrition company and sell lots of feed, your ration in pretty dang hot and will burn out a calf if you are not careful. I have never been to your operation, seen the cattle or visited with you so I cant really tell you what to feed. That much corn is too much in my opinion, it will burn hair for sure. Sometimes it is not how much you are feeding but also how long you have been feeding. If you find yourselves continually pushing your steers at the end to finish them try increasing feed earlier in the year. Eating a lot in the end is good, but making sure your calf is finished and primed is even more important.
Before you speak with someone make sure you are prepaired.
what is your end goal of the steer?
what does the steer weight? What do you want him to finish at?
what feeds are accessable to you? outline how you have been feeding cattle in the past.
how are you feeding? in a trough, feed pan, tied up, loose, etc.
when you speak with someone just keep an open mind. there are a million different ways out there and sometimes the best to suit you will be a combination of others. don't be afraid to make a change in your program if it makes sense to you and will be beneficial in the end.
Take care and good luck with your calf
 

Justin69.o

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my dad has a hubbert feed dealer who thinks what we are feeding is good cause we can fatten cattle up in 11 months but he doesn't understand that i need them for 14-16 months
 

BLRanch

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Davidsonranch said:
Where is AAOK's recipe again?  I'm stupid and can't find it :)

Go to the Front Page Home (it's under the home tab). Then scroll down until you see the articles, it is under the Breeder Directory and Business Directory. AAOK's recipe is the first article.
 

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