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Show Heifer

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Just heard about the OK Football coach going after (vocally)  the reporter that ripped his quarterback. And I just wanted to state that I think the coach had not only the right, but the obigation, to stand behind his player.  The reporter that attacked the kid should be willing to be a target herself if she is willing to attack someone else. Shame on her.

I would be curious to know how the team responded to his press report. I would try that much harder for a man willing to stand behind me.

So to Coach,  Your team is lucky to have someone such as yourself willing to stand behind his players. Keep up the good work!!!

(clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)

 

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I have no problem with the press getting after professional athletes.

College is a whole different deal.  Those reporters aren't quite to brave to someone's face are they.  I don't understand attacking a kid in the press unless he's in trouble with the law.  They have plenty of those kind of targets anyway.

I think the NCAA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the country.  Those kids get used and abused so badly.  I've had some really good friends and known other very good kids that played D1 ball.  I know the families they came from how hard they worked, the kind of grades they got in high school, etc.  I know of one that enjoyed his college football experience.  If you get hurt they try to run you off so they get that scholarship back, you literally aren't allowed time to have a job if you need extra money, and they could care less about giving you time to study.

Those kids make billions for colleges.  The value of that scholarship isn't worth a fraction of what they help those schools earn.  A lot of the crap that goes on would disappear if every one of those kids got a paycheck for spending money, etc.  They certainly earn it.

I wasn't that big of an OU fan, but Barry Switzer should be applauded for his honesty about the subject.  One of the things that got him in big trouble was the fact that he bought a plane ticket for one of his kids to fly home to one of his mom's funeral or in the hospital or something like that.  That's not cheating, that's being a human being.

 

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this is really showing the disconnect between america and the media.  the coastal based media outlets are saying he should be reprimanded or even fired.  the people around here, that is oklahoma, think he should get a raise.  their largest benefactor is okie born, billionaire, texas oilman T. Boone Pickens;  bet i know which side of the fence he is on.  as an okstate alum and cowboy fan, i applaud his passion.  reminds me of his playing days when he went toe to toe with a nebraska defensive lineman or his blocking on the reverse and i am pretty sure he didn't slide when he scrambled.  believe it or not, he didn't just pitch the ball to thurman  thomas and later barry sanders.
 

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Show Heifer said:
Just heard about the OK Football coach going after (vocally)  the reporter that ripped his quarterback. And I just wanted to state that I think the coach had not only the right, but the obigation, to stand behind his player.  The reporter that attacked the kid should be willing to be a target herself if she is willing to attack someone else. Shame on her.

I would be curious to know how the team responded to his press report. I would try that much harder for a man willing to stand behind me.

So to Coach,  Your team is lucky to have someone such as yourself willing to stand behind his players. Keep up the good work!!!

(clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping)

Exactly right Show Heifer.

As for the team (and the school and the fans), yes I think they (we) are all very proud of Mike Gundy for standing up for his player(s). I'm glad he did it simply because it needed doing, but I think it might be good for morale and performance in the longer run, too.

The article was needlessly personal and would be embarassing to anyone, possibly devastating to a young person - especially one as immature and vulnerable as she made him out to be, ironically enough. The Oklahoman in general and this reporter in particular has always had a decidedly OU slant, and loves to take potshots at OSU, just because. Most everyone here (except of course the really  radical OU fans who of course take pleasure in any discomfort at OSU) agrees that she was way out of line, and that Gundy did a good thing. Even Bob Stoops said the media takes far too many liberties with the reputations of these young people, and that unfortunately it's necessary to point it out to them from time to time.

Chambero, I agree with what you're saying too, especially that giving those kids a paycheck could stop alot of the crap that goes on. Don't see it ever happening though...



 

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Those kids make billions for colleges. 

which is why, in general, i don't participate.  this is, entertainment business of socialist imperialism, mostly a misallocation of capital that america is wasting on reinforcing cult personality populism, rather than finding vainqueur.
 

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That was pretty funny, glad he stood up for his qb.  The media has become out of hand almost everywhere.
 

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Knabe.... please translate. I got the socialist imperialist part but am a little perplexed about America "finding Vainquer".  As for the college player making billions for the colleges they play for... personally, I think that is great!  Guess I have spent too much time chasing cows but I really don't get your point, other than imperialism and ( I presume) capitalism are bad things.
 

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(clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) (clapping) He gained a lot of respect for his stand.
 

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I am glad to see he is getting a very strong majority behind him!!
I sure was hoping he didn't apologize. The reporter may "stand by her story", but I bet she doesn't mess with one of his players again!!! ;D
 

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a local news station poll had 82% of those voting through their website supporting his comments.  230 years ago those other 18% would have wanted to keep paying taxes to the brits.
 

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As far as I know the coach didn't say he was sorry but said he wish he had been more prepared because he had some more things he wanted to cover. He sure gained my respect for what he did and how he did it if he would of done it any others way his point would of been schrugged off. I also think that players should be payed to have spending money , most of these kids parents cannot help. Not only what the universities make what about the ncaa they get billones to act as figure heads. go okiestate

Roni.




   
 

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Huge kudos for coach!!!!  More coaches need to follow in his footsteps.  (clapping)
 

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Knabe.... please translate. I got the socialist imperialist part but am a little perplexed about America "finding Vainquer".  As for the college player making billions for the colleges they play for... personally, I think that is great!  Guess I have spent too much time chasing cows but I really don't get your point, other than imperialism and ( I presume) capitalism are bad things.

translation.  i am questioning the revenue left over after expenses for entertainment vs other activities, such as academia.  i think capitalism is a good thing.  socialism can not exist without it.  the soviet union proved that in the 30's when they had to use capitalism to grow food, china is proving it now, but in america, we keep striving for socialism because we are obsessed with the silly notion that everything is equal, with basically all media and schools on the bandwagon.  i am reading a great book called "the war of the world" by niall ferguson,who has written some other great books.  it's popular to demonize capitalism, but nothing has driven improvement, albeit with it's sores, like capitalism.  note quote at bottom.

as for finding Vainqueur, he's the bull telos mentioned on browarny's site under the legacy section.  it's very interesting where that bull has turned up.  i have been searching indirectly for him for a while without knowing it in a few bloodlines.  there is a certain nexus coming together that is very interesting.  now that i have found him, it is only confirming my suspicions (he's probably not a PHA carrier).  i'm thinking about the movie finding nemo as a metaphor for vainqueur, metaphors that have nothing to do with finding him (nemo).  telos will know what i mean when he thinks about it. 

as for the metaphor of america finding vainqueur, i mean not being ashamed of her strengths because she's not perfect, and for some, this is reason enough to discard her.  I am deeply troubled for the world and america, and hope in my lifetime, i can see property rights excercised in all countries.  only with an investment, will man diversify his emotions.  a man without an investment has too much time on his hand for mischief and martydom.
 

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Thanks Knabe,
  I was thinking of the bull Vainquer when I read your previous post, but was not sure if that was what you were referring to, or not. I am still not sure if you are saying that revenues after expenses ( also known as profit) is not a good thing for colleges to be getting from their sports programs. In my opinion if the colleges can make money that can be used to improve the college's ability to teach and train, I think it is good. This should assist in keeping the costs of attending a college " affordable". I know it costs alot to send a son or daughter to college. but it may be much worse if the colleges did not have revenue sources like their college teams.
 

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thanks JIT,


I just want to see a breakdown of costs/revenues, rather than speculating about the percentage contribution from sports, say compared to fees, grants, alumni contributions, state contributions if appropriate etc. and see where that money goes, rather than just accepting that it is profit at face value.  the term much worse is not descriptive enough.  i would rather see a percentage and place the appropriate adjective after the cart.

also, people underestimate the value of going to junior college, and granted lot's of places don't have them, but if i was a science major or others, i see absolutely no reason to take history, english, psych etc at a higher cost institution.  nothing like a little competition for these universities to offer critical thinking.  i think universities are basically stagnated echo chambers in the liberal arts and basically hate capitalism so much it's not only transparent, but they are actually proud of it. 

overall, i'm just a little disappointed america chooses to spend so much of it's time living through others.  no wonder we don't know who we are anymore.
 
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