Question about frame size when using FU and HIA

[DB]

Good evening to everyone.  I was wondering if these two bulls will either add some frame or downsize the frame or will it stay about the same as the cow?  Thanks for any information anyone can add. 

 

[CRS]

From my experience, they breed similarly in regards to frame size.  HIA must be used on a cow with guts otherwise they become quite tubular.  In my experience with both bulls they will knock one down from 7 or 8 to a 6 and will take a 4 to a 5 or 5.5, but there is nothing hard and fast because there is so much variation.  I you are looking to add frame, they are probably two of the best clubby bulls for that as they both have Full Flush in their pedigree.