kidsandkows
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Really nice calves!
Unfortunately it doesn't work that way!mark tenenbaum said:You need to do a Justintime-and export embryos on that horned Bessie cow-COWABUNGA shes good O0
Duncraggan said:Unfortunately it doesn't work that way!mark tenenbaum said:You need to do a Justintime-and export embryos on that horned Bessie cow-COWABUNGA shes good O0
Africa is the hotbed of diseases, read human HIV, Dengue Fever et al, bovine Rift Valley Fever, Rinderpest, Foot and Mouth et al, but we in South Africa have some of the most stringent import criteria for genetics in the world, I believe!
Most animals qualifying for genetic export to most European and N. American countries need to undergo further quarantine to be eligible for export to S. Africa.
I looked at some Argentinian genetics a couple of years ago. There seems to be some tit-for-tat diplomatic spat between the countries and that is an absolute no-go!
Genetic imports at reasonable prices are dependant on the major genetics companies like CRI/Genex otherwise the private route, at a much higher cost. There are probably only less than about 1000 pedigree Beef Shorthorn cows in S. Africa currently, from being one of the most popular breeds in the 60/70's. They have mostly been crossed to make composites, including Bonsmaras, Santa Gertrudis, Beefmasters and Stormbergers.
I still believe there is both a fashion and marketing component to breed popularity and that it is also cyclical.
I also believe that the marketing strategy is still to try and follow a polled, red phenotype, that is the Angus's biggest advantage, polled progeny! Dehorning for me always seems to be scheduled for the hottest day of the year, although this year I was rained out for the first time ever!
That said, Shorthorns still pay the bills although good prices for quality bulls would be the cherry on top!
blackdiamond said:Duncraggan said:Unfortunately it doesn't work that way!mark tenenbaum said:You need to do a Justintime-and export embryos on that horned Bessie cow-COWABUNGA shes good O0
Africa is the hotbed of diseases, read human HIV, Dengue Fever et al, bovine Rift Valley Fever, Rinderpest, Foot and Mouth et al, but we in South Africa have some of the most stringent import criteria for genetics in the world, I believe!
Most animals qualifying for genetic export to most European and N. American countries need to undergo further quarantine to be eligible for export to S. Africa.
I looked at some Argentinian genetics a couple of years ago. There seems to be some tit-for-tat diplomatic spat between the countries and that is an absolute no-go!
Genetic imports at reasonable prices are dependant on the major genetics companies like CRI/Genex otherwise the private route, at a much higher cost. There are probably only less than about 1000 pedigree Beef Shorthorn cows in S. Africa currently, from being one of the most popular breeds in the 60/70's. They have mostly been crossed to make composites, including Bonsmaras, Santa Gertrudis, Beefmasters and Stormbergers.
I still believe there is both a fashion and marketing component to breed popularity and that it is also cyclical.
I also believe that the marketing strategy is still to try and follow a polled, red phenotype, that is the Angus's biggest advantage, polled progeny! Dehorning for me always seems to be scheduled for the hottest day of the year, although this year I was rained out for the first time ever!
That said, Shorthorns still pay the bills although good prices for quality bulls would be the cherry on top!
sounds like an interesting breed...
Duncraggan said:Unfortunately it doesn't work that way!mark tenenbaum said:You need to do a Justintime-and export embryos on that horned Bessie cow-COWABUNGA shes good O0
Africa is the hotbed of diseases, read human HIV, Dengue Fever et al, bovine Rift Valley Fever, Rinderpest, Foot and Mouth et al, but we in South Africa have some of the most stringent import criteria for genetics in the world, I believe!
Most animals qualifying for genetic export to most European and N. American countries need to undergo further quarantine to be eligible for export to S. Africa.
I looked at some Argentinian genetics a couple of years ago. There seems to be some tit-for-tat diplomatic spat between the countries and that is an absolute no-go!
Genetic imports at reasonable prices are dependant on the major genetics companies like CRI/Genex otherwise the private route, at a much higher cost. There are probably only less than about 1000 pedigree Beef Shorthorn cows in S. Africa currently, from being one of the most popular breeds in the 60/70's. They have mostly been crossed to make composites, including Bonsmaras, Santa Gertrudis, Beefmasters and Stormbergers.
I still believe there is both a fashion and marketing component to breed popularity and that it is also cyclical.
I also believe that the marketing strategy is still to try and follow a polled, red phenotype, that is the Angus's biggest advantage, polled progeny! Dehorning for me always seems to be scheduled for the hottest day of the year, although this year I was rained out for the first time ever!
That said, Shorthorns still pay the bills although good prices for quality bulls would be the cherry on top!
I will get on to that when the holiday season is over on 07 January 2013. That is generally when everyone gets back to work after Christmas.Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR said:
Reading your comments this means to me that you was in Brazil!!!
Here also have one of the worst sanitary problems and have one of the hardiers import protocols for import. Australians when hear that we wish some genetics shut out our mails. Some for UK.
Do you tryed to check protocols Brazil/S.Africa? I'm inserting some full Argentinan blood embryos here and will have some genetics available in two years, also have in my semen bank some good Argentinian bulls as well as old genetics that will work very well on grass.
Duncraggan said:I will get on to that when the holiday season is over on 07 January 2013. That is generally when everyone gets back to work after Christmas.Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR said:
Reading your comments this means to me that you was in Brazil!!!
Here also have one of the worst sanitary problems and have one of the hardiers import protocols for import. Australians when hear that we wish some genetics shut out our mails. Some for UK.
Do you tryed to check protocols Brazil/S.Africa? I'm inserting some full Argentinan blood embryos here and will have some genetics available in two years, also have in my semen bank some good Argentinian bulls as well as old genetics that will work very well on grass.
Had a good look at the pictures of Shorthorns and Lincoln Red Shorthorns on your website and liked them. I saw Stonmour Thundercloud at the last Royal Show in 2009, good bull considering his 100% pure status.
Where abouts are you in Brazil, down south near Argentina?
Duncraggan said:I saw, if I remember correctly, that Jackaroo has a massive EMA. Seems to have made his way over the Pacific as well!
I only have one female in production so far and she produces an above average calf every year, four so far.
I retained four of the last five of his progeny this year, 2M and 2F. The bulls are well above average, the heifers only just average.