Rustynail said:What do mean by slope from hooks to pins?
Rustynail said:What do mean by slope from hooks to pins?
OH Breeder said:Doc,
I really like her. Even though it looks like she is fairly thick, she is not massive boned and is feminine. It looks like she is standing on a hill which I feel also can distort confirmation. I think she is great. I like her front end clean made. If you are gettin' rid of one, just let me know, I would have her in my pasture.
I have always liked Kadabra females. He usually makes them pretty. I have never had any structural issues with kadabra some say they have. I think that will really click.Doc said:OH Breeder said:Doc,
I really like her. Even though it looks like she is fairly thick, she is not massive boned and is feminine. It looks like she is standing on a hill which I feel also can distort confirmation. I think she is great. I like her front end clean made. If you are gettin' rid of one, just let me know, I would have her in my pasture.
OHB, You are correct. She stopped as she started going up a hill next to my house. I wanted to get some pictures taken before she ran up to the barn in the mud. I will be consigning her to the Blue Ridge Shorthorn Classic in Clemson,SC on April 26th. OHB she is out of the dam of your Primo hfr. We flushed her dam to Primo again & will be flushing her to Kadabra week after next.
Thanks for the comments, always willing to hear them. ;D
Telos said:I think she is unique in her kind with really good capacity. Her muscle to bone ratio looks to be very good, but personally would like to see her a little heavier structured and perhaps smoother and and little longer made in her muscle. Even though I'm critical she is an interesting female and feel that a lot of bulls would work on her. If she is a PHA or TH carrier that would give someone a better idea on how to breed her.
Telos said:I think she is unique in her kind with really good capacity. Her muscle to bone ratio looks to be very good, but personally would like to see her a little heavier structured and perhaps smoother and and little longer made in her muscle. Even though I'm critical she is an interesting female and feel that a lot of bulls would work on her. If she is a PHA or TH carrier that would give someone a better idea on how to breed her.
Funny? Those guys are right as rain. I still, don't understand why we, as a breed, continue to select for traits that have no benefit to the commercial producer. JCC has married into a Shorthorn Breeding family, and, he has noticed some things, after only a short period of time. Breeders of Shortorns in the USA ( with GENERATIONS of experience) can't seem to to notice these things.JoeBnTN said:Look at the first pic. From her hook (hip) bones to her pins (the bones right below her tailhead). If the bones are parallel or close to it, it is more pleasing to the eye, and more acceptable in the American Show Ring. For this heifer, some would like to see them a bit more level.
Australian folks especially knock us Americans for selecting for minimal angle coming out of the hip. If you look at the best Aussie cows, they all have a bit of slope, and a lot of the older (very old) genetics from the U.S. have this trait too.
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It's funny how most cattle breeders outside the US are always critical of our emphasis on eye appeal. I remember when the first Salers came to the US and started getting used. A few years later some of the French breeders came to the US to see the cattle and they were appalled at how we had ruined the cattle by raising their pins. They insisted that an ideal Saler female should have a strong slope from hooks to pins - they felt it facilitated easier births especially with bigger calves.
Doc, nice heifer. Good luck at Clemson.