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I didn't say he WOULDN'T. I said is wasn't likely. When you continue to mix up these genetics, 3, 4, 5 way crosses, the consistency goes away. And what if he DID produce AS good as his sire? Why not just use his sire? That was my point.  I don't understand going to all of the expense to promote something just like what is already available.I wasn't even saying he might not be a great bull, but does he look much better than his sire? No. Is he likely to be a better producer? Maybe. Not likely. Will Wade sell enough semen on him to pay for the marketing? Probably. But I would submit that many of the people who would buy semen on him would buy Believe in Me if I Believe was not available. FOR ME, if he is a registered half Maine he could be more attractive because I need to be able to register progeny. I am not sure if his dam is a purebred or not.

But he is the consensus best one there. What of all the others? How are many of these people going to justify the expense of taking bulls that are just like what there already is to choose from? If you want the experience, the fun, I can certainly get that. It's like owning a race horse. Doubtful you'll get your investment back, but it is a lot of fun. But from a business standpoint, I don't see how it makes sense. That's all I was speaking to.

I understand.  Everybody is looking for the next thing.  A son of Monopoly, a son of Believe In Me, a son of...why wouldn't you want to try to reproduce the bull themselves or create something close that might even be better?  Why not find cows bred like Hazel and breed them all to Heat Wave and try to get another Monopoly?  But instead people breed a composite cow to Monopoly.  Or a son of Monopoly.  By doing that you're getting further away from the genetics that worked.  And I'm just using him as and example.  Saying nothing I'll of him...or the other bulls...anyone follow what I'm saying?
 

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Here is a look at the 2013 Bulls that were displayed at the yard in Denver.  Special Thanks to Tucker Mittag who provided the photos, he runs a great blog at the link below and does graphic design and web development.

<a title="Mittag Show Cattle" href="http://mittagshowcattle.blogspot.com/">Mittag Show Cattle</a>

 
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<h2>Guilt Trip</h2>
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<div><strong>Eye Candy X Char</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Trausch & Sievers</strong></div>
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<h2>I Believe</h2>
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<div><strong>Believe In Me x Hard Drive</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Rodgers, Goet</strong></div>
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<h2>Skyfall</h2>
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<div><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yB3fJBKQ-vk/UPr6ZM8w9eI/AAAAAAAAKTg/vIoGeumj1Gk/s1600/PART951358621486203-779953.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835251578091664866" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-yB3fJBKQ-vk/UPr6ZM8w9eI/AAAAAAAAKTg/vIoGeumj1Gk/s400/PART951358621486203-779953.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Messenger x Solid Gold/Grizz/Imprint</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Habeger, Neil, Reid, & Frye</strong></div>
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<h2>Fast and Furious</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y4rbUKKdP4M/UPr6F0lPfwI/AAAAAAAAKTU/xPhzFv7iI1s/s1600/2013-01-199512.49.03-703128.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835251245133037314" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y4rbUKKdP4M/UPr6F0lPfwI/AAAAAAAAKTU/xPhzFv7iI1s/s400/2013-01-199512.49.03-703128.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Monopoly x Armageddon</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owner by Phil & Dax Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2>Revolution</h2>
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<div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1rMR19IHz8A/UPr4ZuEbO2I/AAAAAAAAKN0/EMqv2rzTWrU/s1600/011913951245%255B00%255D-770254.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835249387958909794" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1rMR19IHz8A/UPr4ZuEbO2I/AAAAAAAAKN0/EMqv2rzTWrU/s400/011913951245%255B00%255D-770254.jpg" width="300" height="400" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>I80 X Point Taken</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Goddard, Ahlin & DeRouch</strong></div>
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<h2>Midnight Heat</h2>
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<div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-14_12RUsavc/UPr3WJshhWI/AAAAAAAAKNk/ucbFuT9Z0oU/s1600/011913951240%255B00%255D-700524.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835248227143746914" alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-14_12RUsavc/UPr3WJshhWI/AAAAAAAAKNk/ucbFuT9Z0oU/s400/011913951240%255B00%255D-700524.jpg" width="300" height="400" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Kadabra X Heatwave</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner & Osborn</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Lone Ranger</h2>
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<div><strong>Walks Alone X Angus-Heatseeker</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Rogers, Ferguson & Smith</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Ready 2 Rumble</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7fTCirBQLmc/UPrzipLQG-I/AAAAAAAAKIk/0Ov4qPP7Ksg/s1600/2013-01-199512.24.09-726211.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835244043706047458" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7fTCirBQLmc/UPrzipLQG-I/AAAAAAAAKIk/0Ov4qPP7Ksg/s400/2013-01-199512.24.09-726211.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Unstoppable x Wide Track</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Surround Sound</h2>
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<div><strong>Monopoly X Maine</strong></div>
<div><strong> Owned by Hara, Coblentz, Brecon & Sharff</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Dont Stop Believin</h2>
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<div><strong>Believe In Me X Dr Who</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Bright & Leo</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Holy Water</h2>
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<div><strong>Fast Freddie X Ice Pick</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Trausch</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Fu Man Chu</h2>
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<div><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tJqjoV2CiII/UPrrwmcWJVI/AAAAAAAAKAo/oKr__uUq_kA/s1600/2013-01-199511.51.29-733715.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835235487397586258" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tJqjoV2CiII/UPrrwmcWJVI/AAAAAAAAKAo/oKr__uUq_kA/s400/2013-01-199511.51.29-733715.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Monopoly x Bounty Hunter</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Goretska & Rodgers</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Chain Reaction</h2>
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<div><strong>Eye Candy X Fear This</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Trausch</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Liquid Courage</h2>
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<div><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qkq-n657Gz0/UPrpxGRvoAI/AAAAAAAAJ8w/w_jV1Jf6Z2Y/s1600/2013-01-199511.41.14-723975.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835233296919797762" alt="" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qkq-n657Gz0/UPrpxGRvoAI/AAAAAAAAJ8w/w_jV1Jf6Z2Y/s400/2013-01-199511.41.14-723975.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Irish Whiskey x Dr. Who/8 Meyer</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Blaine Rodgers, Fair, Wheeler, Reimann</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Bo Diddley</h2>
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<div><strong>Bojo X Wasnt Me</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by McCullough</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Walkin' Foxie</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r8Ewy3GCbWU/UPrnhDcCkCI/AAAAAAAAJ6o/Gy_g19EQ8AU/s1600/2013-01-199511.33.37-748104.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835230822256513058" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r8Ewy3GCbWU/UPrnhDcCkCI/AAAAAAAAJ6o/Gy_g19EQ8AU/s400/2013-01-199511.33.37-748104.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Walks Alone x Foxie Moxie</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Skinner & Garten</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Money Ball</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qXpwf6fw7pw/UPrnFqOYw_I/AAAAAAAAJ6c/_1nKG5BKXlQ/s1600/2013-01-199511.31.47-738029.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835230351631893490" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qXpwf6fw7pw/UPrnFqOYw_I/AAAAAAAAJ6c/_1nKG5BKXlQ/s400/2013-01-199511.31.47-738029.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Monopoly Money x Hairy Bear</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Chocolate Milk</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sNnAD0cE3KM/UPrk8oUMKnI/AAAAAAAAJ2k/vVxCDHLNCeA/s1600/2013-01-199511.22.37-790256.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835227997477284466" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sNnAD0cE3KM/UPrk8oUMKnI/AAAAAAAAJ2k/vVxCDHLNCeA/s400/2013-01-199511.22.37-790256.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Milkman x Ground Zero</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Garwood, Clamme, Beard, & Copus</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Springsteen</h2>
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<div><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9jorqSGBtQY/UPrkaAZs-QI/AAAAAAAAJ2Y/tW2isS_1ErY/s1600/2013-01-199511.20.25-751672.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835227402647435522" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9jorqSGBtQY/UPrkaAZs-QI/AAAAAAAAJ2Y/tW2isS_1ErY/s400/2013-01-199511.20.25-751672.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Monopoly x Warhorse</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Stoltz, Bremer, Peterson, & Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Alpha Male</h2>
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<div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yLLiQrl6bCI/UPriiGfadAI/AAAAAAAAJ0c/OOWcAgXOv-0/s1600/2013-01-199511.13.14-772443.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5835225342697698306" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yLLiQrl6bCI/UPriiGfadAI/AAAAAAAAJ0c/OOWcAgXOv-0/s400/2013-01-199511.13.14-772443.jpg" width="400" height="300" border="0" /></a></div>
<div><strong>Monopoly x Irish Whiskey</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">General Lee</h2>
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<div><strong>Monopoly x Sooner</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Extra Salty</h2>
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<div><strong>Salty Dog X Fergie 10</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Schreck & Chaney</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Texas Tornado</h2>
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<div><strong>Heat Wave x Get It Done</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner, Goretska, Lain, Maddox, Imhof</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Sugar Rush</h2>
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<div><strong>Walks Alone X Eye Candys Full Sister</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Trausch</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Lain Train</h2>
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<div><strong>Monopoly x Get It Done</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner, Goretska, Lain</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Johnny Football</h2>
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<div><strong>Monopoly X Get It Done</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner,Goretska, Lain</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Maternally Yours</h2>
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<div><strong>I-80 x Grizzly/Macho</strong></div>
<div><strong>Owned by Lautner</strong></div>
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<h2 itemprop="name">Total Solution 1</h2>
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Cattle Cards

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From the pictures here and elsewhere, I like Chain Reaction best.  Balanced, correct, complete.  Not extreme in anyway.  Is that correct?
 

tcf

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I have been and am still posting more pictures. @TheCliffsFarm

I will be upfront, I sell Lautner semen so lots of the pictures are of their bulls. no need to bash any others, the bulls were displayed well and represented their breeders the same.

My favorite was General Lee bias aside.

-Kurtis Reid
 

sizzler14

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I have yet to hear anything on Maternal Perfection from Rodgers. Was he not there>
 

rlrlks

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Carlson Cattle said:
rlrlks: You took the words rite out of my mouth. What would you try them on though?
Sugar Rush I would use on frailer made cows that need more power.  Johnny Football I think will breed similar to Monopoly and I Believe will be similar to Believe in Me.  That being said it's always a crapshoot and we will all find out in two or three years.
 

rlrlks

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Also really liked Steamroller he was just out on Friday and not Saturday.  He didn't have the hair of some of the others but as far as natural muscle and rib shape I thought he could hang with anything.  All in a Th and Pha free package probably going to use him on some of our carriers this year.
 

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Carlson Cattle said:
Lain Train  ;D??? Wasnt there but I like him too-you can tell hed need to be bred to a very sound cow-but hes got good solid non-cow killers on the bottom,and looks to have the least hair "creating" thickness in the rear and lower 1/4-thickest looking bull I seein the pics-I like General Lee Too-Foxy Moxie didnt come close to Smilin Bob with this years deal-Smilin Bob he had to be the single most impressive Denver bull Ive seen (pictures and videos) the calves Ive seen out of him were usefull-but more broody than clubbie:you guys that were there are welcome to correct me-Im just going by pictures. O0
 

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Here are some cell phone pics of Sugar Rush from Denver...he was by far the bull with the most performance and power and grow. No he's not perfect but I have yet to ever find a perfect one because they all have a different purpose, type and kind. This bull is a cow changer and for how stout he is he is incredibly soft middled not to mention great haired and big boned. In terms of shear power this is a bull that will bring a lot of change to a cow herd.
 

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Here is a cell phone photo of Chain Reaction on display in Denver as well as his front shot promo photo. This is very easily the best Eye Candy son I have ever seen. He was very complete super sound structured above average hair and stouter than most Eye Candy's. I can see him being a very consistent producer just based on the fact he is so complete himself
 

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carter o

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Looks great like always raymond..are you going to be displaying them at your show or the iowa beef expo? Thanks
 

steerjockey

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Sugar Rush will be on display at our futurity show and we plan to display Chain Reaction at IA and OH beef expos
 

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Cattle Cards said:
GONEWEST said:
I didn't say he WOULDN'T. I said is wasn't likely. When you continue to mix up these genetics, 3, 4, 5 way crosses, the consistency goes away. And what if he DID produce AS good as his sire? Why not just use his sire? That was my point.  I don't understand going to all of the expense to promote something just like what is already available.I wasn't even saying he might not be a great bull, but does he look much better than his sire? No. Is he likely to be a better producer? Maybe. Not likely. Will Wade sell enough semen on him to pay for the marketing? Probably. But I would submit that many of the people who would buy semen on him would buy Believe in Me if I Believe was not available. FOR ME, if he is a registered half Maine he could be more attractive because I need to be able to register progeny. I am not sure if his dam is a purebred or not.

But he is the consensus best one there. What of all the others? How are many of these people going to justify the expense of taking bulls that are just like what there already is to choose from? If you want the experience, the fun, I can certainly get that. It's like owning a race horse. Doubtful you'll get your investment back, but it is a lot of fun. But from a business standpoint, I don't see how it makes sense. That's all I was speaking to.

I understand.  Everybody is looking for the next thing.  A son of Monopoly, a son of Believe In Me, a son of...why wouldn't you want to try to reproduce the bull themselves or create something close that might even be better?  Why not find cows bred like Hazel and breed them all to Heat Wave and try to get another Monopoly?  But instead people breed a composite cow to Monopoly.  Or a son of Monopoly.  [size=10pt]By doing that you're getting further away from the genetics that worked[/size].  And I'm just using him as and example.  Saying nothing I'll of him...or the other bulls...anyone follow what I'm saying?

(clapping)
 

Ohio1

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steerjockey said:
Sugar Rush will be on display at our futurity show and we plan to display Chain Reaction at IA and OH beef expos
Would love to see him at ohio beef expo!
 
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