even if one knows names, due to nature of some posts, and those people being tracked down and threatened with a lawsuit, no names will be posted, even if one knows them until the facts are clear and a test is available and it has the blessing of the australian angus association. not sure what the legal standing the AAA could do to not allow it, but they hopefully will get behind it. it appears they are, and you can be sure, like i've said before, the positioning has long since been happening. since this one isn't owned by the AAA, it may be in the public domain. imagine if the maine association had the rights to PHA and TH and wouldn't allow their use. there still isn't an uproar in the AAA about dwarfs yet. amazing. ever since the 50's too. i think in general, it's not appreciated the level of determination, work etc is necessary to find these genes, develope a test. it's probably easier to do this than get dna samples. all one has to consider before they ask for one to name names is to consider other ramifications, ie, defending one's self with one's own money, even if they are right. money traders don't take lightly their ability to trade.