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knabe said:
that sounds a whole lot like guilty until proven innocent. i go to the bank once a month, but that doesn't mean that i have ever robbed the bank.
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that sounds a whole lot like guilty until proven innocent. i go to the bank once a month, but that doesn't mean that i have ever robbed the bank.
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to me, it's guilty by association, at least in obama's case as he has people on his staff right now who are for the destruction of israel
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/barack_obama_and_israel.html
what about jewish lands in mecca and medina? where is the diversity on obama's staff in support of israel. hint, there is none.
i will not be voting for obama, mccain, or clinton. for the first time, i am writing in myself, as that is the only person i believe in who is running who has the interests of america first.
soros has been funding mccain since 2001. bye america, welcome new world order
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a few of the thing that i think i know about you and your personality make me ask this question. why is the protrection of israel important to you?
knabe
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excellent question.
why is the protection of any home for anyone important? the ratio of the land for israel versus muslim land is a little skewed. i realize the jews left the land of milk and honey. when they did this, there was no islam. plenty of arabs have left places, yet claim these sites as holy as they are now doing in spain and france and anywhere any religious site was, they put up a mosque and claim it holy for ever. why can't jews do the same? afterall, the proportion of land the jews have is miniscule. this can only lead to one thing, complete dhimmitude, the goal of islam anyway. no one seems to understand this. according to the koran, it is ok to lie to deceive the kaffir (unbeliever), if it serves the purpose of domination. to me, islam is a cult. now we get into areas of which religion has the right to slaughter another religion in the name of who is correct, or who has the earliest knowledge. if the mainstream media treated islam with the same criticism as israel, we wouldn't be so brainwashed and sympathetic to a religion that want's to overthrow everyone else. i'm pretty sure jesus didn't say this. he said accept him as your savior, not kill the kaffir. do you realize mohammed never visited jeruselum? he went there in a dream, spoke to moses in heaven, asked him why he was crying, and mohammed said gabriel said to mohammed, it's because the muslims will outnumber my people in heaven. mohammed talked to a few other people in heaven, mostly deriding them. did you know that a mole on your back is the mark of a prophet? when mohammed found this out, it was a little too convenient. did you know mohammed had superhuman sexual stamina? did you know mohammed was perhaps the greatest practitioner of cirucular logic?
https://www.protestwarrior.com/store/product.php?productid=24
scroll down to the shirt of the map of ProtestWarrior Tshirt - Unjust Jewish Occupation
now for the controversy
jews and arabs are half brothers. islam, to me, is a cult borne out of hate for inheritance customs in that ishmael was born from abraham, but not sarah, and isaac was born of sarah. the first born inherits everything. the two systems basically are a contrast in human rights on almost every level. the left screams non-stop about discrimination, but will NEVER point out ANY hypocrosy about islam, only israel and the US. therein lies the solution for me. if one wants inclusion, those who exclude are excluded in my realm.
finally, the protection of israel is important to me as it delays the rapture and i want to linebreed fullblood maine's before the 12th imam comes back before jesus.
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/12th-imam.htm
fullbloods for jesus ;D
none of the above is hate, it's just reality. i wouldn't be sad to see an inheritance mechanism borne from no work other than pillaging to finance a revolution, another ponzi scheme admitted to by mohammed himself in the koran, disappear. there is no separation between church and state with islam, NONE. creeping incrementalism is the preferred method of islam to dominate the earth. they have more patience as a logic system (still circular) than we do, who are consumed by consumption.
why is the protection of any home for anyone important? the ratio of the land for israel versus muslim land is a little skewed. i realize the jews left the land of milk and honey. when they did this, there was no islam. plenty of arabs have left places, yet claim these sites as holy as they are now doing in spain and france and anywhere any religious site was, they put up a mosque and claim it holy for ever. why can't jews do the same? afterall, the proportion of land the jews have is miniscule. this can only lead to one thing, complete dhimmitude, the goal of islam anyway. no one seems to understand this. according to the koran, it is ok to lie to deceive the kaffir (unbeliever), if it serves the purpose of domination. to me, islam is a cult. now we get into areas of which religion has the right to slaughter another religion in the name of who is correct, or who has the earliest knowledge. if the mainstream media treated islam with the same criticism as israel, we wouldn't be so brainwashed and sympathetic to a religion that want's to overthrow everyone else. i'm pretty sure jesus didn't say this. he said accept him as your savior, not kill the kaffir. do you realize mohammed never visited jeruselum? he went there in a dream, spoke to moses in heaven, asked him why he was crying, and mohammed said gabriel said to mohammed, it's because the muslims will outnumber my people in heaven. mohammed talked to a few other people in heaven, mostly deriding them. did you know that a mole on your back is the mark of a prophet? when mohammed found this out, it was a little too convenient. did you know mohammed had superhuman sexual stamina? did you know mohammed was perhaps the greatest practitioner of cirucular logic?
https://www.protestwarrior.com/store/product.php?productid=24
scroll down to the shirt of the map of ProtestWarrior Tshirt - Unjust Jewish Occupation
now for the controversy
jews and arabs are half brothers. islam, to me, is a cult borne out of hate for inheritance customs in that ishmael was born from abraham, but not sarah, and isaac was born of sarah. the first born inherits everything. the two systems basically are a contrast in human rights on almost every level. the left screams non-stop about discrimination, but will NEVER point out ANY hypocrosy about islam, only israel and the US. therein lies the solution for me. if one wants inclusion, those who exclude are excluded in my realm.
finally, the protection of israel is important to me as it delays the rapture and i want to linebreed fullblood maine's before the 12th imam comes back before jesus.
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/12th-imam.htm
fullbloods for jesus ;D
none of the above is hate, it's just reality. i wouldn't be sad to see an inheritance mechanism borne from no work other than pillaging to finance a revolution, another ponzi scheme admitted to by mohammed himself in the koran, disappear. there is no separation between church and state with islam, NONE. creeping incrementalism is the preferred method of islam to dominate the earth. they have more patience as a logic system (still circular) than we do, who are consumed by consumption.
knabe
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here's a government set aside for those who agree with obama
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.01945:
this is communism and group think. these people, dick durbin and obama, and reid and pelosi and bush are taking this country down.
go ahead do nothing.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.01945:
this is communism and group think. these people, dick durbin and obama, and reid and pelosi and bush are taking this country down.
go ahead do nothing.
JbarL
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Israel is protected...oh boy is Israel protected 
....alot of folks would like to see the end of Israel ....but that to be decide at a later date...(angel) jbarl
....alot of folks would like to see the end of Israel ....but that to be decide at a later date...(angel) jbarl
knabe
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code pink is not for free speech. they force taxpayers to protect free speech, and even then, the police won't protect it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyvpUL1F3k&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/13/berkeley-a-change-in-pr-strategy/
where is code pink's tolerance? answer. they have none. rasputin couldn't have done it any better.
most relevant quote.
some of us have jobs.
my addition. some provide jobs.
so david schuster can't use the word pimp, but code pink can? typical code pink commie logic. it's amazing it's so difficult to analyze this. any 5 year old or younger can figure this out. of course when they go to school, the are reprogrammed to not recognize it.
Last week, MSNBC suspended David Shuster for saying, “Doesn’t it seem as if Chelsea [Clinton] is sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?” A search through MSNBC’s archives quickly uncovered a glaring double standard: Last September, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann accused President Bush of “pimping General David Petraeus.” It’s the same analogy — these days, the word “pimping” is slang, meaning to use in an unseemly way. Olbermann wasn’t reprimanded, but Shuster was suspended for two weeks and forced to apologize. Why?
simple, doesn't fit the free speech template. some are just more free than others. just wait for the perfect storm of division. NOBODY willl unite anything except through death and taxation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsyvpUL1F3k&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/13/berkeley-a-change-in-pr-strategy/
where is code pink's tolerance? answer. they have none. rasputin couldn't have done it any better.
most relevant quote.
some of us have jobs.
my addition. some provide jobs.
so david schuster can't use the word pimp, but code pink can? typical code pink commie logic. it's amazing it's so difficult to analyze this. any 5 year old or younger can figure this out. of course when they go to school, the are reprogrammed to not recognize it.
Last week, MSNBC suspended David Shuster for saying, “Doesn’t it seem as if Chelsea [Clinton] is sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?” A search through MSNBC’s archives quickly uncovered a glaring double standard: Last September, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann accused President Bush of “pimping General David Petraeus.” It’s the same analogy — these days, the word “pimping” is slang, meaning to use in an unseemly way. Olbermann wasn’t reprimanded, but Shuster was suspended for two weeks and forced to apologize. Why?
simple, doesn't fit the free speech template. some are just more free than others. just wait for the perfect storm of division. NOBODY willl unite anything except through death and taxation.
knabe
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Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and Republican John McCain all voted to give retroactive Social Security benefits to illegal aliens who committed document fraud.
knabe
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if only it was this easy
Among her accusers was a man who alleged she made him impotent.
An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7244579.stm
sounds like sterilization in both america and nazi germany, russia, numerous other societies to me. in saudia arabia, it actually went to trial. what a joke. and we want to REASON with these people? Is it possible?
Among her accusers was a man who alleged she made him impotent.
An appeals court ruled in September 2006 that Falih could not be sentenced to death for witchcraft because she had retracted her confession. But a lower court subsequently reissued the death sentence for the benefit of "public interest" and to "protect the creed, souls and property of this country," the group's statement said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7244579.stm
sounds like sterilization in both america and nazi germany, russia, numerous other societies to me. in saudia arabia, it actually went to trial. what a joke. and we want to REASON with these people? Is it possible?
knabe
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in indonesia
The Bukittinggi municipal administration has banned residents from celebrating Valentine’s Day, on Thursday, on the grounds the occasion is not in line with Minangkabau traditions or Islam.
“The Valentine’s Day celebration is not our culture as it usually relates closely to immoral acts where, during the celebration, young couples tend to hug and even kiss each other. This is an immoral act, right?” Bukittinggi Deputy Mayor Ismet Amzis told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.
A similar prohibition was implemented by the administration on cafes, restaurants, hotels and other tourist sites planning to hold Valentine’s Day celebrations.
The administration said it would enforce existing regional regulations on “immoral act eradication” and take companies that celebrated the day to court.
A number of permits already issued for Valentine’s Day activities have also been revoked.
Bukittinggi Mayor Djufri told a press conference earlier that his administration would shut down a number of tourist sites known to attract visitor’s on Valentine’s Day, including Jam Gadang, and some cafes.
Djufri urged parents in Bukittinggi not to let their sons and daughters go out Thursday night.
In order to replace Valentine Day’s parties, the Bukittinggi administration urged schools to drive their students to mosques or prayer rooms Thursday night to hear religious sermons “for the sake of improving their morality.”
sure, we can talk with them. so tolerant of other cultures. let's do business there. afterall, it's cheaper.
The Bukittinggi municipal administration has banned residents from celebrating Valentine’s Day, on Thursday, on the grounds the occasion is not in line with Minangkabau traditions or Islam.
“The Valentine’s Day celebration is not our culture as it usually relates closely to immoral acts where, during the celebration, young couples tend to hug and even kiss each other. This is an immoral act, right?” Bukittinggi Deputy Mayor Ismet Amzis told The Jakarta Post on Wednesday.
A similar prohibition was implemented by the administration on cafes, restaurants, hotels and other tourist sites planning to hold Valentine’s Day celebrations.
The administration said it would enforce existing regional regulations on “immoral act eradication” and take companies that celebrated the day to court.
A number of permits already issued for Valentine’s Day activities have also been revoked.
Bukittinggi Mayor Djufri told a press conference earlier that his administration would shut down a number of tourist sites known to attract visitor’s on Valentine’s Day, including Jam Gadang, and some cafes.
Djufri urged parents in Bukittinggi not to let their sons and daughters go out Thursday night.
In order to replace Valentine Day’s parties, the Bukittinggi administration urged schools to drive their students to mosques or prayer rooms Thursday night to hear religious sermons “for the sake of improving their morality.”
sure, we can talk with them. so tolerant of other cultures. let's do business there. afterall, it's cheaper.
knabe
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Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.
The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.
It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.
POVERTY IN THE US HAS STAYED AT 15% SINCE BEFORE JOHNSON TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
He said the legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years he said would amount to $845 billion "over and above what the U.S. already spends."
The plan passed the House in 2007 "because most members didn't realize what was in it," Kincaid reported. "Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require." (WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T READ???????????????????????????????????????????????????)
A statement from Obama's office this week noted the support offered by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS PREACHES DEPEDENCE. THEY SHOULD BE DISBANDED.
when you give wheat for free to foreign countries as aid (or anything for that matter), why would anyone grow wheat there?
I DIDN'T SEE THIS PART IN THE CONSTITUTION
Specifically, it would "declare" that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is "required" to "develop and implement" a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be "specific and measurable."
THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE TAXPAYER SHOULDN'T PAY FOR. WE ARE TOTALLY STUPID. WAKE UP AMERICA.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning 'small arms and light weapons' and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," he said.
OBAMA IS THE VIRUS TO GIVE US A WORLD GOVERNMENT. PERHAPS JESUS IS COMING SOONER THAN I THOUGHT.
THE SAD THING IS THAT PROBABLY FULLY 30% OF THE US VOTING POPULATION ENTHUSIASTICALLY AGREE WITH THIS AND FEEL THOSE THAT DON'T SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE EARTH.
OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE UP US SOVEREIGNTY. PROVE TO ME OTHERWISE.
The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.
It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.
POVERTY IN THE US HAS STAYED AT 15% SINCE BEFORE JOHNSON TRIED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
He said the legislation, if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years he said would amount to $845 billion "over and above what the U.S. already spends."
The plan passed the House in 2007 "because most members didn't realize what was in it," Kincaid reported. "Congressional sponsors have been careful not to calculate the amount of foreign aid spending that it would require." (WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR ANYTHING THEY DIDN'T READ???????????????????????????????????????????????????)
A statement from Obama's office this week noted the support offered by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS PREACHES DEPEDENCE. THEY SHOULD BE DISBANDED.
when you give wheat for free to foreign countries as aid (or anything for that matter), why would anyone grow wheat there?
I DIDN'T SEE THIS PART IN THE CONSTITUTION
Specifically, it would "declare" that the official U.S. policy is to eliminate global poverty, that the president is "required" to "develop and implement" a strategy to reach that goal and requires that the U.S. efforts be "specific and measurable."
THERE IS NOTHING THAT THE TAXPAYER SHOULDN'T PAY FOR. WE ARE TOTALLY STUPID. WAKE UP AMERICA.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that (U.N.) declaration commits nations to banning 'small arms and light weapons' and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention of Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child," he said.
OBAMA IS THE VIRUS TO GIVE US A WORLD GOVERNMENT. PERHAPS JESUS IS COMING SOONER THAN I THOUGHT.
THE SAD THING IS THAT PROBABLY FULLY 30% OF THE US VOTING POPULATION ENTHUSIASTICALLY AGREE WITH THIS AND FEEL THOSE THAT DON'T SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE EARTH.
OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE UP US SOVEREIGNTY. PROVE TO ME OTHERWISE.
Jill
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I think we have thrown enough money at the poverty situation for most logical thinking people to realize that money will NOT cure poverty!
Why is it that we as a coutry feel it is our resposibility to solve the worlds problems. With the debit load in this country, I don't see how anyone could possibly vote to spend a dime on poverty or anything else outside of this country, let's solve our own problems before we start worrying about what everyone else is doing.
I don't understand how Obama has gotten this far in his run for the White House, it scares me to death to think that he could actually win.
Why is it that we as a coutry feel it is our resposibility to solve the worlds problems. With the debit load in this country, I don't see how anyone could possibly vote to spend a dime on poverty or anything else outside of this country, let's solve our own problems before we start worrying about what everyone else is doing.
I don't understand how Obama has gotten this far in his run for the White House, it scares me to death to think that he could actually win.
shorthorns r us
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WOW ???
garybob
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I wish that those who are against hunger relief, never get the chance to be hungry, to know what it's like.
"in less need for charity, and more of it when needed"
Where have we heard that before?
GB
"in less need for charity, and more of it when needed"
Where have we heard that before?
GB
Jill
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I'm not against hunger relief, I AM against throwing money at poverty, there is a huge difference!
knabe
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hillary, we (the government) can put people to work
health care is a right, not a privelege (can't find that in the constitution)
obama, will raise the effective tax rate in CA to 60% (removing ceiling on social security and arising tax rate to around 46%)
who in their right mind would create a job in that environment when countries around the world have a tax rate at 30%.
how will jobs stay in america? easy, dick durbin and obama would lower corporate rates for "patriotic" companies (their definition)
social security was basically set up because women outlived men by a few years and it was to be used for a couple of years. social security should be indexed to life expectancy as FDR envisioned. but liberals basically want to increase it to captrue
how many of your kids have read the following?
atlas shrugged, (and for beginners, the fountainhead)
slaughterhouse five
1984
i'm thinking the percentage is getting lower every day.
health care is a right, not a privelege (can't find that in the constitution)
obama, will raise the effective tax rate in CA to 60% (removing ceiling on social security and arising tax rate to around 46%)
who in their right mind would create a job in that environment when countries around the world have a tax rate at 30%.
how will jobs stay in america? easy, dick durbin and obama would lower corporate rates for "patriotic" companies (their definition)
social security was basically set up because women outlived men by a few years and it was to be used for a couple of years. social security should be indexed to life expectancy as FDR envisioned. but liberals basically want to increase it to captrue
how many of your kids have read the following?
atlas shrugged, (and for beginners, the fountainhead)
slaughterhouse five
1984
i'm thinking the percentage is getting lower every day.
knabe
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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/1002_scroungers.shtml
He quit his £27,000 job teaching maths and science three years ago and is BETTER OFF claiming £29,096 a year in benefits.
And he has much more time to devote to his Islamic political party— which ATTACKS the British government, even though this country gives his family their food, clothes and house for free.
Mohammed is also busy planning his TWELFTH baby with wife Noreen, 35, but has no plans to get a job.
We believe that we should look after each other, especially children and the elderly, and that wealth should be shared.
sounds like islam is for socialism too.
Islam teaches sharing of wealth. The people who put money in might complain, but the people who can earn need to look after those who can't. The only people I object to are people who abuse the system."
We know just what you mean, Mohammed.
in case you can't figure out the eventual demographic consequences of this nonsense and the elimination of the west, please wake up, we are doing the same thing in america. fully 50% of the CA state education system is spent in the K-12 grade on english as a second language to no effect as they refuse to learn english, evidenced by demands that competency tests be given in spanish. as soon as they are able to vote for this to be codified in law, america is doomed. next will be a tax rate beyond what obama could possibly imagine.
america is on a suicide mission.
He quit his £27,000 job teaching maths and science three years ago and is BETTER OFF claiming £29,096 a year in benefits.
And he has much more time to devote to his Islamic political party— which ATTACKS the British government, even though this country gives his family their food, clothes and house for free.
Mohammed is also busy planning his TWELFTH baby with wife Noreen, 35, but has no plans to get a job.
We believe that we should look after each other, especially children and the elderly, and that wealth should be shared.
sounds like islam is for socialism too.
Islam teaches sharing of wealth. The people who put money in might complain, but the people who can earn need to look after those who can't. The only people I object to are people who abuse the system."
We know just what you mean, Mohammed.
in case you can't figure out the eventual demographic consequences of this nonsense and the elimination of the west, please wake up, we are doing the same thing in america. fully 50% of the CA state education system is spent in the K-12 grade on english as a second language to no effect as they refuse to learn english, evidenced by demands that competency tests be given in spanish. as soon as they are able to vote for this to be codified in law, america is doomed. next will be a tax rate beyond what obama could possibly imagine.
america is on a suicide mission.
fluffer
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Jill said:
Amen, I am so with you on that one!!! (clapping)
Show Dad
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Jill said:
Just an observation:
The amount spent on Great Society programs since 1968 is almost equal to the National debt.
So here's a couple of questions:
Have we solved the problem?
How much more will it take?
knabe
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according to obama, it will take 585 billion to address that not in the US.
the equation might look something like this.
is there an intersection of entitlement versus production which motiviates those who can take care of themselves to do so? we keep doing the opposite. we keep finding the intersection of what increased entitlement program can incrementally capture less production.
the equation might look something like this.
is there an intersection of entitlement versus production which motiviates those who can take care of themselves to do so? we keep doing the opposite. we keep finding the intersection of what increased entitlement program can incrementally capture less production.
