Hey Ellbee!!

[Doc]

Have you had any full Irish cows by 3rd? I've got some embryo's by 3rd out of a Dividend x Castletroy Linda 3rd dtr. Just wondered what they might be like?

 

[ELBEE]

Never any (full) Irish, But we had good success using him on his daughters. We had a few 3rd daughters crossed with Duke of Dublin. It was a shame more breeders didn't reproduce the full Irish. We never did own a full Irish cow.
I am looking forward to a flush between the 3rd and a Strawberry cow in Maryland. On paper it will be full Irish + linebred.

 

[Doc]

I've got a few full Irish cattle still & several embryo's. I just 2 Irish Mist hfrs. last year that are out of a cow by the original Deerpark Leader bull x the original Scarlet O'hare cow.

 

[ELBEE]

I'm happy to hear somebody's preserving the old genetics.

 

[red]

Doc, wow some great bloodlines. How did you come about those or they just from storage?

Red (welcome)

 

[Doc]

I've still got the cow. I had some I.M. semen to flush her with & got 3 eggs , got 2 calves out of them with both heifers. The cow had a TPS Coronet Leader 21st heifer in November.

 

[red]

Doc, would love to see some pictures if you have any!

Red

 

[ELBEE]

Doc, here's the genealogy of our senior herd sire. (TH-FREE)

              -  WO Dividend 3J

FS Improvers Plus 021M ET
                                                          -Improver 3rd
                      - ELBEE Influence 1981     
                                                          -(pre-Irish) (Leader 21st)
              -  ELBEE Augusta Gwen
                                                            -  Improver
                      -  WO Augusta Improver 32H
                                                            -(pre-Irish) (4D's Command 50th)

 

[justintime]

I've still got the cow. I had some I.M. semen to flush her with & got 3 eggs , got 2 calves out of them with both heifers. The cow had a TPS Coronet Leader 21st heifer in November.

One of our donors is a full Irish female named Waymar J&J Strawberry 96. We flushed her to Highfield Irish Mist 3 years ago and got 28 grade 1 embryos. We have flushed her to Duke of Dublin as well as several Shorthorn sires. We have sold embryos from her to 5 countries. We are using an ET son HC Mist's Return 13R ( a son of Irish Mist) in our herd. He has the shortest gestation length we have seen in any Shorthorn bull for a long time, and this has made him an exceptional calving ease sire. We calved 31 heifers to him this spring and never saw a calf born. I even bred his ET full sister to him and she had a very nice red neck roan heifer calf that looks like she will be a keeper for sure. YOu can see him on our website at www.horseshoecreekfarms.com . Strawberry 96 will be flushed again this coming Friday, this time to Wolf Willow Major Leroy.
I also flushed  another of our donors, Shadybrook Presto 73G, to TPS Coronet Leader 21st x this spring and we got 6 grade 1 embryos. I sold 3 to Iowa and implanted 3 myself. At 6 weeks we still have 3 pregnancies, so I have my fingers and toes crossed, hoping that we keep them all.I still have enough Leader 21st for a couple more flushes.

 

[Show Heifer]

Hey, Elbee, just wanted to tell ya, I bred some cows to Wymore....my neighbor had a nice set of heifers and he wanted to try something new. They were gelv X angus, limi X ang, and a few gelv X limi.  Both blk and red. All really nice heifers. I have first dibs on the calves..... (clapping)

 

[DL]

Hey ELBEE - you gonna let SEK handle Wymore semen next year?

 

[ELBEE]

If Coover is willing, yes.

 

[DL]

If Coover is willing, yes.

Excellent - I will encourage him!
PS I posted this before somewhere but it may be lost in the madness - the Big Red Cow - ultrasounds pg (now at 61 days) to Gizmo - I am pretty excited!

 

[justintime]

I've still got the cow. I had some I.M. semen to flush her with & got 3 eggs , got 2 calves out of them with both heifers. The cow had a TPS Coronet Leader 21st heifer in November.

One of our donors is a full Irish female named Waymar J&J Strawberry 96. We flushed her to Highfield Irish Mist 3 years ago and got 28 grade 1 embryos. We have flushed her to Duke of Dublin as well as several Shorthorn sires. We have sold embryos from her to 5 countries. We are using an ET son HC Mist's Return 13R ( a son of Irish Mist) in our herd. He has the shortest gestation length we have seen in any Shorthorn bull for a long time, and this has made him an exceptional calving ease sire. We calved 31 heifers to him this spring and never saw a calf born. I even bred his ET full sister to him and she had a very nice red neck roan heifer calf that looks like she will be a keeper for sure. YOu can see him on our website at www.horseshoecreekfarms.com . Strawberry 96 will be flushed again this coming Friday, this time to Wolf Willow Major Leroy.
I also flushed  another of our donors, Shadybrook Presto 73G, to TPS Coronet Leader 21st x this spring and we got 6 grade 1 embryos. I sold 3 to Iowa and implanted 3 myself. At 6 weeks we still have 3 pregnancies, so I have my fingers and toes crossed, hoping that we keep them all.I still have enough Leader 21st for a couple more flushes.

 

[Doc]

Hey JIT, She's a good looking cow. I've got a full irish Ldr. 18th x Strawberry cow. Do you have any of the Irish Mist eggs for sale?

 

[red]

As usual, Red is not afraid to ask the stupid question!
Please explain Irish bloodlines to me. Is is an area where they came from or a certain family?

Thanks so much!
Red

 

[ELBEE]

The Deerpark line came from Edward Quane, of Limmerick.

 

[Doc]

Red, when someone says full Irish they mean that all of it's ancestors derived from cattle or semen  brought over from Ireland. I know they have taken a hard rap lately for the TH issue, but I would I hate to think were we would be without the full Irish cattle. It's hard to find a Shorthorn pedigree without any Irish cattle in it.

 

[red]

Thanks Doc! I really appreciate the great information you & others are providing us about the Shorthorn breed & especially the older genetics. I'm amazed at how much I have learned over the months.

Red

 

[justintime]

I don't have any Irish Mist embryos at this time. Maybe check with Ron Robarge, Ney, Ohio as he purchased 1/2 interest in this cow, and he has received about 30-40 embryos from her.