i don't know what you mean by got it except for the cal poly cows, but Mike Hall, still there, worked with tim ohlde to introduce the dividend lines into the Poly herd. Red has a picture of one of his heifers i sent her that sold for something like 16 or 20k. when i left poly, they were basically getting rid of the shorthorns. it was also at this time that tim was sending a few club calves out for the annual sale out of ildeno and others, mostly blacks. Poly is doing real well with angus right now, focusing on carcass quality, eye appeal etc. Great school. downtown, there is an alley way called gum ball alley where everyone for decades have been putting their used gum on the wall. i think its at least two stories, so lot's of creativity to geth them in the area between where you can reach down and where you can reach up. Cal Poly and Mike Hall put on the Western Bonanza which was started by a senior project student and now serves as a teaching model for fair management. a lot of the shows for college participation have been lost. shame.