justintime
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I do not know exactly how tall Leader 21st was, but he certainly would be considered to be a moderate frame by today's standards. If my memory is correct, he was a taller bull than his grand son, Jakes Proud Jazz.
From the two calves I have here, I think Leader 21st can definitely moderate frame on some of today's bloodlines. I flushed Presto to him as I wanted to see what he would do on a bigger framed cow... and , to be honest, i was afraid to breed him to a smaller framed cow in case the calves were too small framed. These calves are definitely smaller framed than their dam, and I think they are going to almost where I want to be, in regards to frame size. As I mentioned in a previous post, many of Leader 21's sons, matured into bigger framed bulls than he was himself. Personally, I think this was probably due to the genetics from the dams side of the pedigrees of these bulls.
Both my calves appear to have adequate muscling, but, as I said earlier, until I get some ultrasound done, I will not know for sure. Both have good volume and depth of rib, and I think these traits are coming from both sides of the pedigree. As you stated, Presto is a deep sided tank of a cow. The Leader 21 bull calf has huge testicles and they are well formed and hang properly. I was very glad to see this as many Shorthorns from that era had testicles that were tipped. I think the Leader cattle were pretty good in this regard( I don't recall any issues in them). I am liking these two calves more and more as they get older. These two calves were the lowest BWs we had this year( with the exception of some twins and a premature birth). When they were born, I was actually wondering if they were going to be twins. I have had embryos split and result in twins before. This wasn't the case in either of these.
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From the two calves I have here, I think Leader 21st can definitely moderate frame on some of today's bloodlines. I flushed Presto to him as I wanted to see what he would do on a bigger framed cow... and , to be honest, i was afraid to breed him to a smaller framed cow in case the calves were too small framed. These calves are definitely smaller framed than their dam, and I think they are going to almost where I want to be, in regards to frame size. As I mentioned in a previous post, many of Leader 21's sons, matured into bigger framed bulls than he was himself. Personally, I think this was probably due to the genetics from the dams side of the pedigrees of these bulls.
Both my calves appear to have adequate muscling, but, as I said earlier, until I get some ultrasound done, I will not know for sure. Both have good volume and depth of rib, and I think these traits are coming from both sides of the pedigree. As you stated, Presto is a deep sided tank of a cow. The Leader 21 bull calf has huge testicles and they are well formed and hang properly. I was very glad to see this as many Shorthorns from that era had testicles that were tipped. I think the Leader cattle were pretty good in this regard( I don't recall any issues in them). I am liking these two calves more and more as they get older. These two calves were the lowest BWs we had this year( with the exception of some twins and a premature birth). When they were born, I was actually wondering if they were going to be twins. I have had embryos split and result in twins before. This wasn't the case in either of these.
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