Red Angus - Looking for a new executive secretary

[garybob]

I do appreciate what they do for america in keeping food cost down but shouldnt they appreciate what america does for them?  I really dont think that it should be a must for me to be bilingual to get a job (a lot of jobs in sw idaho you have to be able to speak spanish). I have nothing against hispanic immigrants, but do it legally (i know its not easy but if you break the law to get here what keeps from breaking the law when you do get here) and learn english... make the effort.

Hoss, the plain, and, simple fact is, there are way, way, way, fewer Spanish names listed in the jail occupancy in the Monday paper, than English/European-sounding names. That's a fact, around here, anyway. It's all the white guys 'n gals that are making Meth in a rented trailer-house. The Immigrants are buying their Mobile Homes. Where there are jobs a-plenty, nobody fusses, and the kids all get along together. No gangs, no Cliques. That's the truth. Please, come see for yourself, in places like Monette, or, Sedalia, MO, or Green Forest, AR.

 

[garybob]

I used to haul flake corn to a dairy in kansas.The guy in charge of feeding was a mexican named soroco. It was a 4000 head dairy. He was old school.He was hunch backed and had a limp and alot of times he would jog between the feed truck and the loader. He was a hustler. He could barely speak english. He tried to teach me a spainish word everyday and I tried to teach him a english word. We always watched the same weather tv deal every night and tried to discuss weather the next day. Anyway alot of the kids underhim looked like gangbangers and had hats on backwards and etc.. Sorroco was a good worker but we gotta build a wall. It is turning into a welfare deal instead of an opportunity especially the new generation coming in. I just don't think the experiment of democracy will survive to the 300 year mark unless we build a wall.

Every great society in the history of mankind has failed and ended why would ours be any different. The best foreman at the company I work for has shady citizenship at best. He tried to get legal citizenship but was denied. He has a engineering degree from one of the top university's in Mexico and should be working half as much and earning 5 times the money. He is one of the nicest and most intelligent people I have ever met and my heart goes out to him since our current immigration system failed him so badly.

That's what we mean, by having a "broken immigration system". Guys like him get totally shafted, while the "Coyotes" ( immigrant smugglers) get rich by bringing illegals into our borders.

 

[garybob]

I used to haul flake corn to a dairy in kansas.The guy in charge of feeding was a mexican named soroco. It was a 4000 head dairy. He was old school.He was hunch backed and had a limp and alot of times he would jog between the feed truck and the loader. He was a hustler. He could barely speak english. He tried to teach me a spainish word everyday and I tried to teach him a english word. We always watched the same weather tv deal every night and tried to discuss weather the next day. Anyway alot of the kids underhim looked like gangbangers and had hats on backwards and etc.. Sorroco was a good worker but we gotta build a wall. It is turning into a welfare deal instead of an opportunity especially the new generation coming in. I just don't think the experiment of democracy will survive to the 300 year mark unless we build a wall.

Those little "Cholos"  ( with gangsta clothes) are, more than likely, "Chicanos" ( US citizens, born to first-generation immigrants) from California, and, not, IllegalAliens. Those kids wear the same kinda clothes to work at Tyson. Truth be told, they aren't near the workers their parents are. Kids 'll be kids, wherever you go.

 

[knabe]

Hoss, the plain, and, simple fact is, there are way, way, way, fewer Spanish names listed in the jail occupancy in the Monday paper, than English/European-sounding names.

this is not accurate, at least in CA, where illegal aliens fully represent 35% of the jail population, yet represent far below that number as a percentage of total population.  this is about demographics and percentages, not absolute numbers.  Come to salinas, san jose, LA, escondido, watsonville, san diego, bakersfield, cottonwood.  it's pretty much out of control.  these numbers are increasing dramatically.  when they start voting because they can get a drivers license, 4 social security cards, sometimes for their parents so they can receive benefits without EVER have even worked in the US.  i know this first hand as an employee i took over, had FOUR social secrity cards and three drivers licenses, all with different names.  of course legal citizens do illegal things as well, but i think this is a little bit out of hand and deserves a little more than more benefits and lawyers just so they can stay here.  the problem is, they, whoever that is, don't want to get rid of any of them because they vote socialism and anti capitalism, plain and simple.  sort them, and i'll be impressed.  why are they the FIRST not to even have to make an attempt to speak english, and why for goodness sakes, if it's a requirement to have working knowledge to write and speak english for citizenship do we have voting material and govt documents in any other language than english.  talk about who is being assimilated.  a  total joke and being paid for by tax dollars.  reconquista without guns.  totally stupid and we are laughed at for being stupid in case you haven't noticed, but you probably haven't as the numbers are not as dramatic as they are in CA where LA has basically gone from 80% white to 30% white in 30 years.  why would i live there, it's almost mexico, with the lack of diversity, and bribes.

if the 14th amendment was enforced as the authors intended, rather than being overturned by one shortsighted court decision, the cholos WOULD be illegal aliens, and they have basicaly taken over the voting of LA, that's why everyone is leaving.

the last time ag labor was impacted by enforcing the law in CA, they invented the tomato harvester, now they have invented the lettuce harverstor.  is there any limit to illegal aliens, or do we always allow the predjudice race card.  why is it that legal citizens must always be comprimised, not illegals.  so silly.

back again to the red angus post.  most good companies have turnover at the top every 3-5 years.  it's a good company that has them waiting in the wings.

 

[renegade]

Really GB, when i lived in Mo. it was a rare occasion to have a hispanic or black kid in my class. One little school i went to said they were lucky to have a korean exchange student and a black kid in the same class because that made it diverse. But when i moved back to idaho the school down the road from my school is for kids in the city limits(c.l high) and mine is for everyone else (v. High) at c. high there are VERY few white kids... its about 5 hispanics to 1 white and at v. high its a 2:1 ratio (hispanic:white) meaning that around here the % of hispanics is higher in jail than other ethnicities. Until this year gang violence was Extremely high due to how many gangs there were in such a small area. This town even make news and radio due to how many gang killings there were. Now there has been several gang busts and things are going a little better but there are still gangs.

 

[garybob]

Really GB, when i lived in Mo. it was a rare occasion to have a hispanic or black kid in my class. One little school i went to said they were lucky to have a korean exchange student and a black kid in the same class because that made it diverse. But when i moved back to idaho the school down the road from my school is for kids in the city limits(c.l high) and mine is for everyone else (v. High) at c. high there are VERY few white kids... its about 5 hispanics to 1 white and at v. high its a 2:1 ratio (hispanic:white) meaning that around here the % of hispanics is higher in jail than other ethnicities. Until this year gang violence was Extremely high due to how many gangs there were in such a small area. This town even make news and radio due to how many gang killings there were. Now there has been several gang busts and things are going a little better but there are still gangs.

After 1994, most of your Processing Plant Towns, for example, the ones I mentioned, experienced a change in demographics. After a couple of years, everybody starting getting to know each other a little better. You'd have to see it to believe it. Again, these are people with strong work ethic and family values. No crap-stirrers here.

 

[Show Heifer]

Back to the orginal post: Isn't this a job that would require some backbone and not back down or quit when the going got tough? Or did someone make the sec leave? Did the old sec get a new job?
I vote for Bolz....he seems to be pointed in the direction of making a breed mainstream. He also seems to have the gumption and stayability that the RA breed needs to take them into the mainstream of commercial cattle.
Anyone hear how their search is going?

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

The ex sec's job is to take direction from the elected board. This was something that our last one didn't seem to want to do, it is my understanding that he was given the choice to resign or be terminated. I think our breed is probably the one of the most "commercialy geared" of the industry. I haven't heard how the search is going. I'm sure that it will take some time, at least I hope they look at as many qualified candidates as possible and not jump the gun again like the last two.

 

[Show Dad]

I would agree that a thorough job of interviewing and vision checking should be done. Because if they do it like they have always done it they will get what they have always got.

 

[aj]

I still like bolz.He has worked all around the country in various positions. When I was around him out here he talked alot of feet and structural correctness and moderation in type. I ran across a deal from BEEF TODAY Jan 1997. In 1980 Red Angus registered 10,157 head and in 1996 they registered 37,903. These are old numbers but the breed has exploded in numbers. I don't know what the 2007 numbers are? It showed in 1996 the following Angus 220,710,Gelbvieh 30,168,Charolais 49,000,Beefmaster 47,000, Limousin 69,000,    Brangus 28,500    Shorthorn 15,000    Simmental 62,000    Herford 112,000  Salers 14,259  registered head. The article didn't list maines,santi gertrudis, etc. Does anyone know the current numbers. We almost need to start a new thread.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

For several years in the late 90s and early 2000s the R A registries nearly doubled. This was in part to the adoption of total herd reporting (THR) that requires every cow have progeny data reported. Many calves were registered through this program that in the old system would not have been. I don't know the exact numbers but the breed has gained a tremendous following and is still growing by leaps and bounds. In 1980 we were nearly an "endangered species" with only 10,157 head registered total. The 2007 sire summary lists over 3400 bulls alone and there are several thousand bulls not listed in it.

 

[Jill]

I still like bolz.He has worked all around the country in various positions. When I was around him out here he talked alot of feet and structural correctness and moderation in type. I ran across a deal from BEEF TODAY Jan 1997. In 1980 Red Angus registered 10,157 head and in 1996 they registered 37,903. These are old numbers but the breed has exploded in numbers. I don't know what the 2007 numbers are? It showed in 1996 the following Angus 220,710,Gelbvieh 30,168,Charolais 49,000,Beefmaster 47,000, Limousin 69,000,    Brangus 28,500     Shorthorn 15,000    Simmental 62,000    Herford 112,000   Salers 14,259  registered head. The article didn't list maines,santi gertrudis, etc. Does anyone know the current numbers. We almost need to start a new thread.

I am amazed by the numbers you quote, this would be when Shorthorns were just starting a huge Jr. growth spurt and yet Salers numbers are almost as high, that is surprising.

 

[aj]

I'm not sure how the whole herd reporting might change things also for the shorthorns here lately. These numbers can be interesting. I wish someone could come up with 2007 comparisons.

 

[loveRedcows]

OK I just have to jump in on this...I'm new to this forum world.  My grandsons are interested in showing steers so thought I would cruise the net to pick up some education.  We've been RA members for 25 years - small time breeders just content to breed & raise functional good-doing reds in our little middle of nowhere.  We've shown some open shows - sometimes do well, others not so well -- our reds show with no hair and traditional butts, but they can walk!  In our country they have to walk miles to water.  Back to the point of this msg--thank you for the news that Dr Bob is on his way out!  The assoc is now so full of trust fund newcomers that I don't even look at the magazine when it comes in so I was unaware of this tidbit!  When we first became members there were only about 5 people in the office and you were equally important to them whether you were a small breeder or a hot shot (oh for the good ole days), but this has not been the case in many years.  If you don't play the EPD game you weren't worth the time.  We once had a gentleman from So. America approach us at a major show wanting to purchase embryos from our herd because he "liked what we had".  He was working through Dr Bob and when we inquired as to how to accomodate this man's request we were informed that we were wasting our time because our cattle didn't fit his (Dr Bobs) criteria. OK fine.

In reference to comments from Show Heifer & Justamom -- we've gotten to the point where we prefer to show in AOB classes because of the people.  In a mixed breed barn we can enjoy visiting with them and admiring their cattle (every breed has some good points) and no one is pushing their breeding program at you.  We have an established market for our bulls & females and have stayed with breeding the kind of animals that work for us, so why should we be subjected to folks who seem to think we need to change to their genetics?  So rest assured that if we run into you at a show, you will be welcomed with open arms simply because you like reds!

 

[Doc]

(welcome) loveREDcows!!!

 

[Show Dad]

loveRedcows (welcome)

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

OK I just have to jump in on this...I'm new to this forum world.  My grandsons are interested in showing steers so thought I would cruise the net to pick up some education.  We've been RA members for 25 years - small time breeders just content to breed & raise functional good-doing reds in our little middle of nowhere.  We've shown some open shows - sometimes do well, others not so well -- our reds show with no hair and traditional butts, but they can walk!  In our country they have to walk miles to water.  Back to the point of this msg--thank you for the news that Dr Bob is on his way out!  The assoc is now so full of trust fund newcomers that I don't even look at the magazine when it comes in so I was unaware of this tidbit!  When we first became members there were only about 5 people in the office and you were equally important to them whether you were a small breeder or a hot shot (oh for the good ole days), but this has not been the case in many years.  If you don't play the EPD game you weren't worth the time.  We once had a gentleman from So. America approach us at a major show wanting to purchase embryos from our herd because he "liked what we had".  He was working through Dr Bob and when we inquired as to how to accomodate this man's request we were informed that we were wasting our time because our cattle didn't fit his (Dr Bobs) criteria. OK fine.

In reference to comments from Show Heifer & Justamom -- we've gotten to the point where we prefer to show in AOB classes because of the people.  In a mixed breed barn we can enjoy visiting with them and admiring their cattle (every breed has some good points) and no one is pushing their breeding program at you.  We have an established market for our bulls & females and have stayed with breeding the kind of animals that work for us, so why should we be subjected to folks who seem to think we need to change to their genetics?  So rest assured that if we run into you at a show, you will be welcomed with open arms simply because you like reds!

Welcome to the "Planet" Sue. I met you years ago in Ft Worth I think. When I came here I figured I would be the only "Red" enthusiast here but much to my surprise there are several as well as breeders from other breeds that are looking for more Red info. I, like you am elated to see our former dictator kicked out the door. I hope we can get someone that will work for the breed and not just the chosen few.

 

[loveRedcows]

(clapping)Thanks for the warm welcome.

RW--we may have met at FTW but you're right, it would have been some time ago.  We haven't been there in years -- with the old crowd gone it's just not fun anymore.  I'm too old to tolerate the "my bull is better than your bull" mentality and our RAs are "traditional", not the modern Red Mangus stomping around the ring these days.  If you like, email me some info & we can hash over the old days!  We acquired a couple of SH heifers last spring and hauled them with our reds this year and I must say that the SH breeders we've met at recent shows are the friendliest groups we've ever encountered!

For all you Durham Red enthusiats out there, a prominent SH breeder has been absolutely delighted with his AI calves sired by some of our bulls....we produced a few DRs this year but I now know why you use RA bulls on SH cows instead of the other way around -- our DR calves were a lot higher BW than we're used to!

Anyway, thanks for the welcome -- and good luck to all of you headed for your shows.

 

[garybob]

(clapping)Thanks for the warm welcome.

RW--we may have met at FTW but you're right, it would have been some time ago.  We haven't been there in years -- with the old crowd gone it's just not fun anymore.  I'm too old to tolerate the "my bull is better than your bull" mentality and our RAs are "traditional", not the modern Red Mangus stomping around the ring these days.  If you like, email me some info & we can hash over the old days!  We acquired a couple of SH heifers last spring and hauled them with our reds this year and I must say that the SH breeders we've met at recent shows are the friendliest groups we've ever encountered!

For all you Durham Red enthusiats out there, a prominent SH breeder has been absolutely delighted with his AI calves sired by some of our bulls....we produced a few DRs this year but I now know why you use RA bulls on SH cows instead of the other way around -- our DR calves were a lot higher BW than we're used to!

Anyway, thanks for the welcome -- and good luck to all of you headed for your shows.

Which Shorthorn Bulls did you use? One question:have you ever used a Red Angus Bull called Neo-SHO Millennnium?

 

[aj]

We want Bolz,we want Bolze everybody now! (dog)