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Trevorgray...You are a wise man.  My hat is off to you.

He is five years old and his registration number is: x4132285.  His sire is Promise a Chief 01

Promise a Promise 07,  Haumont Shorthorns, owned by Kevin Cooksley, Broken Bow Nebraska.  Dennis Hoffrogge sent me this photo.  What do you think?

Nice calf.  Nice genetics.  Well done.

So what are we all after?  The carcass is result of incredible  endeavor.  What is ideal and profitable for the producer, feedlot, retailer, cook, and.... person behind the knife and fork.?  How heavy? How much marbling? How much backfat?  How much bone? Guts? Ribeye?  What is efficent...

I live in this area...Salida and I am sad to say that this year, the Arkansas River is way,way, low.  A year ago, it was magnificently high.  Sorry.

Maybe this topic has been addressed, but I'm wondering what you all know about gourmet beef.  I think it would be well marbled and tender, and tasty, but behind that what is the considered phenotype of the animal that was butchered?  Wagyu, I understand are enormously marbled and look dairy. ...

Supply and Demand...emotion, adrenaline, and speculation;  Economics:  Hopefully it will turn out great!

Heat and Ultra Violet energy are the problem. You are fine.

Okay........... just dumbed are we.................I started this thread  wiith Highlanders, ...what does it take t be feed efficient? .... Hello...

I've heard how Highlanders are excellent foragers and therefore; easy keepers and feed efficient.  How true is this?  Have any studies been done?  What about buffalo?

I'm sure there  is some somewhere.  A few years ago, I snooped around and came up short.  In the meantime, while talking to breeders.....I find myself feeling fortunate that I came up without any.  I know he did sire some famed cattle, though.

This year I plan to use three amps.  Two on the original Haumont cows I bought four years ago.  Maybe one on the daughter of one of these cows that was sired by IPS Canadian Image of USA.  Then in a couple years use an amp on a resulting heifer.  This would be a sire/daughter breeding and if I...

Yeah....six frame is how I would describe these guys.  The bull my dad bought in 1972 was maybe even a 7.  Our neighbors would stop their vehicles on our road just to stop and take him in.

Bless you.  May we chat?

Thanks to Steer Planet, I now own and posses 6 amps of semen from '68 Par Cherry '71.  This bull was intensely linebred on the old Frank Haumont genetics, mostly Par Defender.  I had given in that none of this semen existed.  Without the help of the Steer Planet forum, this would not have happened. 

Survival of the fittest.  Only as strong as the weakest link (limiting factor);  Balanced traits that prosper with the current environment.

Very nice bulls! You got my undivided attention; Very masculine, thick, and balanced.  They look well fed and converting feed efficiently is their job.  Our shorthorn breed needs more like these guys...

From what I have seen about the two, here and there, Obvious gets my vote.

I'm not totally sure about the inquiry, but the KSU question got my attention.  In the earlier '70's my father bought a bull, that was called something like KSU Wonder K 9.  He was horned and at the time large.  It seemed like he had a peak in the middle of his back.  His calves did not work out...