the truth said:NHR said:Well we purchased a solid white bull this year because of his genetics and all my buyers want whites and roans and all I have is mainly red cows with red calves this year. I could sell every roan that hits the ground. We did have one roan this year sired by Jake's Proud Jazz.
Must be wrong because the roan calves sell for more money down here....
maybe in a show calf market? but in the "real" world... take a roaner to the marketplace.. and you leave buck naked, and walking home. They'll take your clothes, truck, trailor... and more so than not- they'll still send you a bill on the calf you just tried to sell!?
anyone disagree?
Color is a showring fad, far more so than not. I guess good cattle are good cattle.. but the United Reducers boys sure don't agree.
frostback said:the truth said:NHR said:Well we purchased a solid white bull this year because of his genetics and all my buyers want whites and roans and all I have is mainly red cows with red calves this year. I could sell every roan that hits the ground. We did have one roan this year sired by Jake's Proud Jazz.
Must be wrong because the roan calves sell for more money down here....
maybe in a show calf market? but in the "real" world... take a roaner to the marketplace.. and you leave buck naked, and walking home. They'll take your clothes, truck, trailor... and more so than not- they'll still send you a bill on the calf you just tried to sell!?
anyone disagree?
Color is a showring fad, far more so than not. I guess good cattle are good cattle.. but the United Reducers boys sure don't agree.
So why cant people breed for more than the commercial market. Is having more than one market in the breed a bad thing? Or our you just sour because you cant make it work in any of them?
Doc said:TDU, I don't really recognize any of the pedigree other than "The Grove" & Vagabond. I just like to see on the pedigrees from down under whenever some US bulls like Cujo, Tribune, Grand Slam & others show up.
Hilltop said:Here is a white bull that will be walking our pastures for a long time. ACC Genral 4U was bred by Okotoks and is sired by Northern legend and his dam is sired by Ghostrider. She is nine and has as good a udder as any cow on our place.
I do believe that an auction mart could be considered the "REAL WORLD" and the last time we sold black calves our roans at the same sale outsold them by 2 1/2 cents a pound.
Are we using him for the showring? No, but if his calves are good enough to go they will, whether they are roan or white.
His first bull calf born here will walk our pastures also this summer.
aj said:If you are shooting for an all red color.....Using a white bull is almost insane. In Canada and the showring cattle is might work. I do appreciate what herds like Lovings and Wakuru have done as far as the solid red color is concerned. It is hard to hit that all red target. I think captain obvious is a result of such selection. Spotted cattle and roans are very economically incorrect where I am. It seems like Canada and where I am are like different planets as far as color's are concerned.
diferent planet is 1 way took at it, CO is a neat bull but he ain't the answer to every question. the white bulls that started this thread and the bulls that were posted by other users are usful beef animalsaj said:If you are shooting for an all red color.....Using a white bull is almost insane. In Canada and the showring cattle is might work. I do appreciate what herds like Lovings and Wakuru have done as far as the solid red color is concerned. It is hard to hit that all red target. I think captain obvious is a result of such selection. Spotted cattle and roans are very economically incorrect where I am. It seems like Canada and where I am are like different planets as far as color's are concerned.
This one was a few years ago but the premium was large, I'd have to look it up. More recently Eionmor Stock Farms has had several groups at the the top of the grid. Which brings us to Our newest INFOMERCIALnate53 said:Highest premium ever paid in Canada on the rail was over $100. Just curious was this rescent or years ago?