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KSanburg

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-XBAR- said:
knabe said:
" A liberal is someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions...someone who cares about the welfare of the people."


But that same someone cannot be afraid to say enough is enough and is stubborn enough to stick to his guns. I have little problem with liberals in general but what I dislike the most is they are very intrusive and believe that our way of life is just wrong. They would rather let the government do it and sit on their a$$ than recognize that private business/industry can do it better and more efficient.
 

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" A liberal is someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions...someone who cares about the welfare of the people."

liberals views on the welfare of people is to make them dependent, not independent.

liberals have no monopoly on looking ahead.  they do have a monopoly of not looking behind to learn from history.

ask daniel pearl.
 

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here's an example of what a liberal does.  

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/king-obama-compels-enrollment-for-retirement-account-but-obama-limits-accounts-to-reasonable/

for some reason, liberals like to be dictated to for every segment of their lives and they enjoy it even more if it's someone else's lives so they know where to get stuff "legally" through the government through the use of implied force.

nothing wrong with that, it's just what liberals are.  they simply hate diversity and freedom, but especially liberty and have basically stolen the word liberalism, just like they do with just about every word that is used to describe social constructs, ie like marriage that are actually constructs that look forward rather than back as they have learned the lesson and costs on society for behavior that is being ignored in the name of looking forward which is really just code for socialism.

here's more of what a liberal does.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/obamas-sequester-soul-train-party-for-me-no-fourth-of-july-party-for-thee-update-four-more-f-16-fighter-jets-to-muslim-brotherhood/

sick, and the media won't call him on it, neither will they cover the abortion doctor trial who killed failed abortions, in other words, babies intended for abortions, but were born alive and gruesomely killed.

a liberal is someone who limits personal freedom, but labels others, ie conservatives as the only limiter of personal freedom.  in other words, a hypocrite.  they are simply more successful at being a hypocrite than republicans.
 

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Well;I dont agree that liberals like to be dictated to;there have been more demonstrations and hell raised against more issues  by "liberals" than the right wing could ever come up with.Recently,and, remember the protests of the 60s and 70s:where the radical liberals were out in the street throwing rocks and bottles at the "fascist oppressive pigs" etc. As far as the sequesters-I may not agree withall of the results-but with no agreements being made-talk to your congressman,they were put into place by WHO? and when?. And whos agendas are bringing any kind of economic compromise to a halt,and resulting in losing what little economic ground has been realiszed so that they can cry baby and point fingers in the hopes of getting reelected. I dont neccessarily agree with some of the "personal freedoms" the Liberals are espousing NOT LIMITING(like gay marriage) but its an interpretation of constitutional rights-as recited by the pro-same sex marriagegroups. DEAL with it-this is ths USA-and thats one of many examples of diversity.Then the idea to get existing illegalls into the system paying thier own way,and creating a much needed tax base (which right or wrong-alot of them want to do) They need to be controlled at the borders (squesters will hamper if not stop that) But the ones here are doing the donkey work that alot of other citizens dont want to do. It costs too much to live here-to pay $.50 cents an hour and compete with Chinese slave labor,but somebodies gotta mow them lawns,work at Mcdonalds etc.Guess the right is scared of thier voice (DIVERSITY AGAIN) because they vote,and are going to be a much larger constituancy as time goes on;I dont necessarily agree with the continued influx and no control over hem at all-but they are here now,and youd better acc\knkowledge that they aint going away.Interesting magazine,although I must say from my normal cosmopolitan medias in West Va-slightly sensationalist at best:even the top republicans get respect around here (lol) O0
 

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Kids used to work at construction jobs, McDonald's, mow lawns. One doesn't need illegals. 750,000 immigrants are legalized already. Tax remissions at the same rate money earned overseas brought back to the US. there are plenty of ways to play fair, but for some reason no one wants to.
 

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If we can check the background for gun purchases, why can't we put illegals in the same database and use the system to help black unemployment?

It's a fact that illegals don't pay their fair share of federal income tax yet are a disproportionate draw on those funds.

We should be spending our money on work ethic of citizens rather than non citizens through tax incentives where all one has to do is use one or more phony social security numbers to get tax refunds.

Amazing the IRS wont go after this.
 

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I'm on the jobsite now. Is this the work you want your children doing? 

Sure, Why not?  If that was the job available to them.  Better than unemployment.
 

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knabe said:
Kids used to work at construction jobs, McDonald's, mow lawns. One doesn't need illegals. 750,000 immigrants are legalized already. Tax remissions at the same rate money earned overseas brought back to the US. there are plenty of ways to play fair, but for some reason no one wants to. /// Sadly-alot of hi tech kids dont want to work at Mcdonalds-dependent of course upon finacial demogrphics, I totally agree with the tax issue-its one of several reasons the Republican candidate had a tuff time getting the votes. O0
 

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Can you imagine the Gosnell coverage if he’d killed dogs or threw a basketball at kids and screamed discriminatory epithets at players?

that's what i call a liberal looking forward.
 

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With guns already being taken away in ca and ny,

If anti-anxiety meds impair judgment so badly that constitutional rights can be removed, can we take away voting rights, too?

 

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I'm on the jobsite now. Is this the work you want your children doing? 

If that is what they want to do, all they have the mental capability to do or can't find a job in their chosen field. I'd rather see them do that instead of sitting at home drawing welfare money or unemployment check . There's nothing wrong with doing manual labor. Not every kid is cut out to go to college. I'm in the body shop line of work and I know a lot of guys that if they are a good body man they can make $70 to $100k a year.
 

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Doc said:
-XBAR- said:
I'm on the jobsite now. Is this the work you want your children doing? 

If that is what they want to do, all they have the mental capability to do or can't find a job in their chosen field. I'd rather see them do that instead of sitting at home drawing welfare money or unemployment check . There's nothing wrong with doing manual labor. Not every kid is cut out to go to college. I'm in the body shop line of work and I know a lot of guys that if they are a good body man they can make $70 to $100k a year./// In alot of cases-its all they have the opportunity to do-because they come from poor familys-Ive been in construction along time,and you get very few computer oriented well educated types with any interest-unless thier family is big in the business-The highest paid guys around here are the hvac techs-and although alot of them didnt come up with money-they are all pretty smart O0
 
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