I understand we all look at cattle differently, but for the life of me, I can't tell by looking at the photo of the bull that he will thicken up his offspring or sire show type heifers out of dual type cows. Nothing tells me that he will improve udders. To the best of my knowledge, the Leader 21 line was not known for their great milking ability or udders. I know several "experienced" breeders that have semen in their tank of Leader 21 line bulls and will not use it because the cows didn't milk to their satisfaction. Tribune sired Rodeo Drive, supposedly, and the Rodeo Drive daughters generally had good udders. I'm not trying to downgrade the bull, he's okay. I just can't see him as the easy doing, great fleshing kind.